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Donald Baker
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Okay, so after the website debacle, the thread we had going on World War III got lost.  So, let's start another one shall we?

I'll even attach a poll to this one.

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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Donald Baker
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So is Russia losing this war or is the MSM lying?  I can't find any real Ukraininan casualty figures.  I find it hard to believe Russia can't eventually win.

I've read other people laughing at Russia for having a difficult time and comparing to how well we did in Iraq.  However, nobody bothered to help Iraq against us and the coalition we built against Saddam.  Putin, on the other hand, has to deal with a determined, more technologically capable enemy who is getting unlimited support from NATO.  I think that is a very big difference.

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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Most of what I see in the reporting is "according to Ukraine authorities..." so I thnk it's all BS

Russia's gonna eventually get what they want, and they should. It seems most of the population in eastern Ukraine is Russian and most of them want this.   It's just unfortunate that our politicians are so willing to prolong the war. 


   
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Donald Baker
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The question now is, will the United States allow Ukraine to sue for peace?  Also, would Russia accept such a peace in lieu of the sustained losses they have incurred?  I'm sure Putin is looking for a way out of this costly nightmare he finds himself in, but he won't accept anything that does not meet his stated goals.

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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I don't really know how suing for peace works legally, but it sounds like Russia would have to accept this if it ever hopes to get re-connected with the international community.  You have to imagine that average Russians are pretty dismayed at being cut off from international trade, from shortages, etc., and that Russian oligarchs and corporations are dismayed at being cut off from the international monetary system. 

I imagine that Russia would want to go through "proper" channels to sue for peace as leverage for rejoining the international market.


   
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Donald Baker
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It all depends on how much China and India can afford to buy.  Russian oil is cheap these days.  Russian weapons are pretty nifty too.  We will see.

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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So the Nord Stream pipeline was apparently sabotaged, thereby cutting a potential Russian fuel artery off from Europe.  No one has taken responsibility for it yet, but Biden is on video with suspicious comments about how he would stop the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

If it's true that the U.S. sabotaged Nord Stream, could this be considered an act of war?


   
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Donald Baker
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In every sense of the word, it would be an act of war.  World War III is pretty much a given at this point.  Europe will be torn apart economically so it stands to reason that war will be waged to recoup the losses or extol revenge.  Either way, the old-world order is crumbling fast.  Whatever new world order is on the way will only be more authoritarian even for us here in the U.S. 

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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Yeah, I've thought about how the powers that be (WEF players, etc.) may be pushing for war on purpose, as this would give them an opportunity to seize control and impose their authoritarianism on the world. Remember when Boris Johnson did not want Ukraine to agree to peace with Russia?

To be honest, the push to expand NATO into Russia's backyard seemed like a provocation that the U.S. should have known about.  They did it anyway.  This entire Russia-Ukraine war could therefore have probably been avoided.


   
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Donald Baker
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/what-if-were-already-fighting-the-third-world-war-with-russia

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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Donald Baker
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https://www.businessinsider.com/the-west-fighting-world-war-3-with-russia-fiona-hill-2022-9

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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Well, does the Crimean bridge destruction accelerate things?

My guess is that we will be launching an attack on Russia, and it is going to be u-g-l-y.  Putin has to know that a few strategic attacks on U.S. soil will cause a massive reaction by average U.S. citizens who become terrified and will want out of war.

Meanwhile, Zelensky is egging on nuclear war, which is insane. He actually called for pre-emptive strikes on Russia. 

We've been played.  The pro-Ukrainian propaganda has dominated and has controlled sentiments to favor war.  Oppose this propaganda and you are smeared as a "Putin defender". 


   
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Donald Baker
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Yes this whole thing is scripted.  Putin knows it but eventually he will have no choice but act the part the West is forcing on him.  Scary times indeed.

Even if Trump were to be revealed as the Dark Lord of the Sith, he's still better than the last four presidents we've had.


   
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